For The Kids - Really?

For The Kids - Really?



Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


Thanks for the input. I'm also retired and taxes are killing us. We have some of  the highest tax rates per school kid in the world and lower achievements than a lot of industrialized nations. Below are excerpts from the included web site, and other comments that reflect the deplorable academic and moral conditions of our public schools and the reason that home schooling is increasing.

"Academic Performance

  • The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (The public school average is the 50th percentile; scores range from 1 to 99.)
  • Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.
  • Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions."

We need more emphasis on good teachers than on multi-million dollar buildings with TV's and every amenity one can imagine. I'm not holding myself up as an example, but just as a barometer. I walked 2.8 miles to and from a two room school with no indoor plumbing or running water, a partially cleared playground field with no equipment for the first seven years of my life and can manage to hold my own on most issues. I built the fire in an old pot bellied stove for 25 cents a week and didn't think anything about it. Do you think kids in today's society would even consider such a situation?  I hardly think so, as they expect their iPods, smart cell phones, designer clothes, rides to and from, million dollar sports facilities, climate controlled facilities, ad-infinitum. The point is that academics and character should hold sway as opposed to other considerations.

We are pouring money down the rat hole of a government controlled system and curriculum which is teaching our kids socialism, alternative life styles, entitlement, hatred of free enterprise and the USA. They are brainwashing our children with an acceptance of mediocrity and diversity just for the sake of the process. We are not all created equal, just with equal rights, therefore the best and brightest should not have to take second seat to justify current government social demands, as some schools infer.

Why do most schools have a police officer as part of their staff?  Could it be because the public schools have failed and lost control over the process and why is home schooling becoming more and more prevalent?  Could it be because many parents recognize that their kids are politicized in virtually every aspect of society toward a one world government that caters to the mindless masses and a kumbaya attitude?  Drugs, sex, and gangs are becoming more and more prevalent.

·  "The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reports that 19 million new STD infections occur every year. And, even more alarming, is that nearly 50 percent of these new cases happen to young people between the ages of 15 and 24. Not only that, but the American Social Health Association (ASHA) reports that half of all new HIV infections occur in teenagers."

  • "One Million gang members in 2009 and growing. There were at least 30,000 gangs and 800,000 gang members active across the USA in 2007,[4][5] up from 731,500 in 2002 and 750,000 in 2004.[6] By 1999, Hispanics accounted for 47% of all gang members, Blacks 34%, Whites 13%, and Asians 6%."

  • 40% of gang members are juveniles (under 18)

By no stretch of the imagination do I place all of the blame on our schools, but a better job could be done to help curb this social deterioration as it contributes heavily toward a rapidly declining, immoral society. Spokane still has some relatively decent schools, but can do much better with far less.

I know that there are many great students that survive the system and become stalwart citizens, but generally speaking we will be tomorrow what we are today and I have serious concerns for our educational system and our future.

Additional money and government controlled schools are not the answer.


Tom Hayes

Tom Hayes

What Happened to our Schools?

Our schools were the best in the world. What happened? According to the National Institute of Education, over 72 million Americans are functionally illiterate, and another 26 million can't read or write, period.

Did our children become stupid? Did our teachers forget how to teach? No! People like Cecil Rhodes in the late 1800s, John D. Rockefeller in the early 1900s, John Dewey, the father of modern, progressive education, in the 1930s, and terrorist teacher-educator William Ayers of today planned the "dumbing down of America" in order to establish a socialist society and a one world government.

In 1933, atheist John Dewey co-authored the Humanist Manifesto. On Dec. 5, 1928. he wrote in The New Republic, "The task of the school (his favored Russian model) is to counteract and transform those domestic neighborhood tendencies. ... the influence of home and church... The institution of the family is being sapped indirectly rather than by frontal attack. ... All sorts of groups are instituted that militate against the primary social importance of the family unit."

On another occasion Dewey said, "There is no god and there is no soul. There are no needs for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded then immutable, unchangable truth is also dead and buried. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes." No wonder Jacque Barzun in the N.Y. Times would say, "The once proud and efficient school system of the U.S. has turned into a wasteland where violence and vice share time with ignorance and idleness."

Dewey viewed the role of education as socializing children rather than educating them. His biggest supporter was and is the National Education Association. In the NEA Journal published in January 1946, Joy Elmer Morgan (Journal editor from 1921-1955) wrote, "At the very top of all the agencies which will assure the coming of world government must stand the school, the teacher, and the organized profession."

Today, the NEA supports abortion, the homosexual agenda, the radical feminist agenda, and the United Nations' globalist agenda. It opposes all competition, especially vouchers and home schooling.

The education bureaucracy has an agenda to globalize our children, not educate them to be independent thinkers. Their values are anti-family and anti-Christian.

Our schools receive more money per student than any nation in the world, yet we are not in the top 10 education-wise. They will continually demand more money, but resist any changes such as consolidating districts, using virtual online teachers, or cutting salaries. They want your hard-earned money, but without any personal sacrifice.

Demand change. Vote NO on the school levies! Vote NO on theft!

Sam B.

Sam B.

I will always vote NO on any school bond that appears on a ballot. There is no evidence that more money spent on "government" schools turns out a smarter student, but there are many schools that turn out smarter students with LESS money.

The problems that students and parents face in the government schools are too numerous to list. If you are a parent with Godly ideals or even a parent that just desires the best education for your children, how can you allow your children to be subjected to all the nonsense and academic mediocrity in government schools? The solution is to take ALL of your children out of government schools. There are numerous options for a better education, academically and morally, outside of the public school system.

Legislation has not worked to improve government schools and it will never work, unless the legislation outlaws all school-related labor unions. If that happened, there may be a sliver of hope for a better education, but still not better moral policies. As I have observed the education system for the past 50 years, it appears that the more we become engaged in the public education process, the more the schools move in the wrong direction, so why waste our time and energy? Put that time and energy into an alternative educational program for your children. Think how much more that might please God, rather than beating your head against the wall fighting the government school system. We need to admit that the "progressives" have more money and power (unions) and they will always stay a couple of steps ahead of us -- to the ruination of our children. Jesus told us there would be times when it would be beneficial to shake off the dust and move on.

There is a simple, peaceful solution to the problem of public schools -- get your kids out! My daughter and son-in-law were very active members of a large Baptist church, in fact, the pastor asked my son-in-law to present the sermon on many occasions. Then my daughter and son-in-law adopted two boys who were grade-school age. I suggested they send our new grandsons to a private school, but my daughter wanted to give the public school a chance. After a short time, my daughter called me and said, "Daddy, I need to pull the boys out of school, since I have to spend a couple of hours each afternoon de-programming them." When the boys were pulled out of public school, my daughter and son-in-law were ostracized by "their" church. Could that have something to do with the pastor's wife being a teacher in public school? My daughter's family had no choice, but to leave the church, as everyone turned on them, like they were traitors. I have no doubt that is not the only church that defends government schools to that degree.

For us Christians, there is a huge missing link. Pastors, with few exceptions, do not have the guts to tell their parishioners the truth about what our children are being exposed to in government schools. Churches will continue to become even more irrelevant until pastors grow a spine and preach, from the pulpit, the message Jesus gave us about the importance of children. Until parents can understand, and accept, the fact that their children are more important than their own personal convenience, it will only get worse.

We need to remind ourselves daily, that we do not answer to any labor union or political party or even our pastor, for what we do or how we vote. But, God may require an answer from us, especially when it pertains to the greatest earthly gift He gives us -- our children.

Change, for the good, in public schools will never come from the federal government, our state government and probably very seldom even in our own local school district or school board, since they are all connected with financial bands that will not be broken. The only thoughtful solution is NOT to participate in government schools, other than to vote NO on school levies.

Rick K

Rick K

Evidently Public School officials are only concerned about their agenda and care little any more about the desires, needs or lives of the general public. And, for them to propose such a huge tax increase in these tough financial times is a slap in the face of the community. Their actions are especially unfair to the seniors who are living on fixed incomes and have lost thousands of dollars from their pension plans. What of the people who've lost their jobs from a business where they've worked most of their lives and from which they had hoped to retire?

School officials continue to use harmless sounding terms that usually begin with, "It's only a few cents a day," or, "It's only a few dollars per month," to make it sound like their levy will only have a minimal impact on people while promoting the welfare of the kids. While we all know that just isn't true. If any of these school levies pass, the school officials will be financially set for years, while most of us will be forced to make substantial sacrifices and adjustments to our budgets and lifestyles. I say there're too many people in our community who take pleasure in promoting every school levy that comes along and believe they know how to spend our money better than we do. Regardless of what your home value is, will you have the hundreds of extra dollars you will need to pay your property taxes? And, more importantly will you be able to continue to pay the new taxes if you or your spouse lose your job(s) or income(s)?

I think it goes without saying, if we managed our money like the school officials manage our tax dollars we would all be in the same financial situation and crisis they are in today. Please don't allow these people to tax us out of our homes. Enough is enough. Heed the words of the wise Einstein: "We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."

Bob and Sarah C

Bob and Sarah C

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